Week 13 - 2013

 

I didn't even want to write anything today.  Not about this team.  Maybe it's the Monday after Thanksgiving hangover effect.  Maybe it was all the actual good football I watched all week.  Maybe it's because on Saturday I watched two of the best football games I've ever seen, in Ohio State-Michigan and Auburn-Alabama.  But more likely it was because of Brandon Weeden and Alex Mack and all the other Browns who make football in Cleveland unenjoyable.  And they did their part on Sunday.

Losing to Jacksonville at home is not easy.  It's downright hard, really.  They are not very good.  And Chad Henne is awful.  I like Gus Bradley and all but it takes a lot to lose to the Jags.  And the Browns did.  All it takes is a second quarter flame out, (sound familiar?) Brandon Weeden, and a lack of pass rush.  That's the formula.  Everything else being equal, that's how the Browns lose every week.  32-28 Jacksonville.  And honestly I hope they lose every game for the rest of the season, and get a real quarterback.  Until that happens, they will continue to suck.  Just like the have for the past 15 years.  They SUCK.

A funny thing happened though.  I felt nothing.  An empty void.  I would normally have been screaming at the TV.  Kicking the air, swearing, throwing clothing.  Not this game.  Nothing.  I said the Browns couldn't have paid me to come to the Factory of Sadness for this game, and I meant it.  They have reached the level of shittiness where I, emotional ticking time bomb Browns fan, don't care.  Lose to the Jags you bums.  Get your butts kicked all over the field against the Steelers, lose to the Jets, I don't care.  Get a higher draft pick.  Maybe don't screw it up this time.  But I don't care.  Trot out Jason Campbell, Brandon Weeden, Alex Tanney, Dennis Northcutt, I don't care.  They all suck.  The season really ended with that flameout against the Bengals, then in case there was any feeling left there was the punch to the balls by the Steelers.  Every single year, right around Thanksgiving, usually on the third or fourth quarterback, this happens.  And every year, in April, I get excited again.  And every year, in August, I'm convinced that this is the year.  And then comes November.  Rinse.  Repeat. 

It's like getting hit in the face with an elephant dart everytime Brandon Weeden drops back to pass and fumbles, or throws the ball to the other team, or finds some way to suck worse that he did 5 minutes ago.  A concussion, Brandon?  Really?  It's always something when you spectacularly flame out.  A thumb one week.  A concussion.  I didn't even know you could get a concussion in your VAGINA.  You are the worst, Brandon Weeden.  The worst.  You make me yearn for Doug Pederson and Thaddeus Lewis.

And Alex Mack.  They tell me he's good.  He's not.  He's probably one of the worst picks since the Browns have been back.  A center.  A GD center in the first round of the draft.  Over Clay Matthews and Percy Harvin.  He gets a crucial penalty every week, usually having something do to with the snap count.  Alex, buddy, you're the center.  IT'S YOUR JOB TO KNOW THE SNAP COUNT.  This week he snapped the ball ten feet over Brandon Weeden's head.  Brandon, so full of football instincts, kicked the ball from the goal line out of bounds for a safety rather than attempting to, I don't know, pick it up and throw it away.  This is seriously the stupidest football team I've ever seen.  Alex Mack also calls the protections.  He stinks at that too.  I beg you to not lose any sleep over the fact that the Browns have made no effort to resign him.  They are getting it right.

I wish I had recordings of all the fools at the trade deadline saying the Browns should trade Josh Gordon for a second round pick.  Right Dustin Fox?  He's the only real player on this offense (except Joe Thomas of course).  I said it last week and I'll say it again, Jordan Cameron has packed it in.  Maybe playing with a real quarterback would help him.  Who cares.

So, four more games.  Who's excited?  Start scouting college quarterbacks.  My money's on Derek Carr right now for the Browns but who knows if we keep losing we may get Teddy B!  Get pumped!  The nightmare is a month away from ending, and the promise of the draft will take over.  And in a year, maybe there won't be late November sadness.  But for now fill that empty void with dreams of competent quarterback play, with college football, with holiday spirit.  And next year, maybe around this time, maybe there will be a team worth feeling something about.


Random gifs


I love you forever and ever Marcus Hall.

I told you all a hundred times Jeff Triplette is the worst ref in the league.  Now this lady knows.  Great job Jeff and crew screwing up another game.

Yes this really happened.

And a bonus for all the swearing today

Week 12 - 2013

I honestly didn't see that coming.  I should have, because I've been burned before.  But I didn't.  I thought it was going to be different.  It wasn't.  I thought the Browns were the better team.  They weren't.  I thought the coaches would have the Browns ready to play.  They didn't.  I thought the Browns would win.  They didn't.

Does that about sum it up?  Another game against the Steelers, at home, and another loss.  Another lifeless performance, not one but two Brandon Weeden sightings, passive coaching, poor special teams.  Awful all the way around in a 27-11 loss to a lousy Steelers team.


Ben Roethlisberger, sex predator, essentially treated the Browns defense like they were guests in his own personal barroom bathroom.  He did whatever he wanted.  The Browns generated no pressure, they gave Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders ample room, and they allowed Le'Veon Bell to run through them.  They were powerless at times.  The offense certainly doesn't help the defense by constantly turning the ball over and failing to score when given good field position, but the defense needs to create turnovers and pressure quarterbacks.  And the defensive players took shots at the offense after the game.  CHEMISTRY!

Jason Campbell apparently has a rib injury.  It must be bad because getting tackled by the ankle even aggravates it.  If he's hurt then he shouldn't be playing.  He had ample time in the pocket for most of the first half and generated very little, especially when gifted good field position.  If Chris Ogbonnaya can't hold on to the football then stop giving it to him.  Give it to Willis and Fozzie.  They only run the ball ten times every game.  Let's minimize some risk here.  But an ankle tackle forced Campbell out of the game in the second quarter, and Weeden came in and promptly fired a fastball that a quickly regressing Jordan Cameron dropped.  And then the wheels came off, Antonio Brown ran past Joe Haden for a touchdown, then Obie fumbled and Pittsburgh got three more points.  At 13-3, the Steelers had it essentially wrapped up at halftime.

The Steelers knocked the fragile Campbell from the game for good in the third quarter, then the home crowd was treated to some more Brandon Weeden.  He only fumbled once and threw a pick six, so all and all a pretty decent game out of him.  Josh Gordon is the only weapon on this offense now that Cameron has packed it in, and he was uncoverable.  Imagine what he would do with a good quarterback.  He had 14 catches and 237 yards.  He's a stud.  This is a team that is moving towards unwatchable territory.  The pillow fight next week between the Browns and the Jags should be epic.  I might be secretly hoping for a Browns loss, one step closer to a franchise quarterback.

The one thing that the Browns do better than anybody in the league, possibly any other team in the history of football, is throw the ball short of the first down marker on third or fourth down.  IF YOU NEED FIVE YARDS RUN A FIVE YARD PASS ROUTE!  NOT 4 NOT 3, FIVE STINKING YARDS. 

3-10-PIT 36 (7:56) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 15-D.Bess ran ob at PIT 31 for 5 yards.

 

3-5-CLE 25 (14:20) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 18-G.Little to CLE 29 for 4 yards (20-W.Allen).

 

3-7-CLE 28 (6:53) (Shotgun) 3-B.Weeden pass short left to 15-D.Bess to CLE 34 for 6 yards (22-W.Gay).

 

4-16-CLE 30 (1:08) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 3-B.Weeden pass short right to 15-D.Bess to CLE 38 for 8 yards (22-W.Gay).

It is the most maddening thing.  I don't understand.  It's going to be a long five games.

Anyways for the 24th time in the 29 regular season games that the Browns and Steelers have played since 1999, the Steelers won.  I don't even know why I'm surprised.  I don't know why I expect anything different.  It's not different.  It won't be until we get a real quarterback, not a fragile journeyman or a 30 year old baseball player.  A real, legit quarterback.  If you think you can win without one in the NFL, you can't.


Random gifs

Pictures is a man's game

This is a pretty solid td dance

Oh Braxton.  Be careful.

#BeatBlue

 

 

 

 

Edit Had to add this gem of two drunk Bears fans racing

 

 

Week 7 - 2013

2 weeks, or what feels like a lifetime ago, the Browns were tied for first place in the AFC North.  Seriously how far away does that feel?  Brandon Weeden, the worst quarterback in the NFL, played one of his worst games.  Jeff Triplette, the worst referee in the NFL, did what he does.  Rob Chudzinski, rookie head coach, doing his Pat Shurmur impression.  31-17 Packers.  This game was basically my worst nightmare.

I defended Brandon Weeden until I watched him vomit away the Miami game.  I was wrong to ever have defended him.  Once the blinders were off, the warts on his game are impossible to overlook.  He is actually getting worse with every start.  Logically this makes no sense.  Quarterbacks don't generally get worse with experience.  But Weeden has.  Every game it seems is worse than the last.  His un-watchability is moving somewhere between Doug Pederson and Charlie Frye.  He sprayed the ball all over historic Lambeau Field, completing a mere 17 of his 42 passes.  The Browns never had a chance, they knew it, and the Packers knew it.

The Browns receivers didn't exactly have a banner day.  Does playing with an inaccurate quarterback who has no confidence have an effect on them?  Possibly.  Josh Gordon looked disinterested, Devone Bess was supposed to be sure-handed but drops a pass every game, Greg Little is not very good, and Jordon Cameron is generally ignored until the game is out of hand.  Kansas City's defense is going to tear this offense apart next week.  Expect press man across the board and between 7-10 sacks.  I'm dead serious. 

As far as changing quarterbacks, I personally don't see it happening, for multiple reasons.  One, Jason Campbell must be terrible or they would have gone to him by now.  Whether they're mad at him for skipping out on the fourth preseason game or there is something else, they obviously don't think he's the answer.  Two, the Browns are done trying to win this season.  They aren't tanking, that's not what I'm saying.  But they aren't trying that hard to be mediocre this season, when they can be bad and get their quarterback in the draft.  The answer isn't outside the building either, in my opinion.  I just don't think that there are any better options than Weeden right now.  I'm not saying I agree, but it is what it is.  So get ready for 9 more horrible games.  Looking at the schedule they may not win again until December, when they take on Jacksonville.  And sadly, as bad as Chad Henne is, if he starts he won't be the worst quarterback on the field that day.  Blaine Gabbert, that's another story.

The coaches were pretty terrible against the Packers as well.  Early in the game Weeden was shooting high and outside pretty regularly.  The Browns had a penalty aided drive going and were facing a 3rd and 1.  And they called a pass.  The guy couldn't hit the broadside of a barn and that's the playcall.  Somewhere Pat Shurmur is smiling.  Shockingly the pass was incomplete.  Third and one should be a quarterback sneak every single time, especially considering they went for it on fourth down.  Well on fourth down they passed it again, and Weeden lobbed an interception.  Brilliant.  Run the ball.  If Marquis Gray is going to come in and run the read option, then teach him how to read the defender.  They ran it twice and he made the wrong read both times.  Late in the game they opted to go for a fourth and fifteen rather than kick a field goal.  Hard to argue if they felt it was out of Cundiff's range.  They actually recovered two onside kicks and were penalized on both.  That's impressive.  But all and all it was a pretty lousy performance from Chud and staff.

I wasn't overly impressed by the defense either, but Rodgers is really good.  They actually plugged the dyke and stopped the flooding in the third quarter.  If the offense had gotten anything going they may have had a chance, but in the end it was too little, too late, too much time on the field.  They have to get more pressure on the quarterback or they have no chance, especially with Robertson now being targeted systematically.  They have a good defense, they are only a few pieces away.

Jeff Triplette is the worst referee in the NFL.  There is no reason he should be allowed to work NFL games.  There were 22 combined accepted penalties, and two egregious misses that I can remember off the top of my head.  The call on Gipson for hitting Finley in the helmet, and the pass interference on Skrine.  Players will be wearing flags soon, because real football is dead.  Gipson had no chance on that play, Finley came in with his head down and Gipson turned away from his helmet.  He has no other option on that play.

Brandon Weeden has now lost every game he's started this season, and there's no reason to think that's going to change anytime soon.  The case can be made that Chud risks losing the team by continuing to roll him out in spite of his obvious and glaring deficiencies.  I won't argue against that, but I also think there is no better option at this point.  The next ten games are going to be long and painful, but so have the past 12 seasons.  3-13 started last week.

Random gifs

Another Brandon Weeden gem, he's throwing the ball to Willis McGahee, who was getting up from blocking on the play.  Another Weeden in a nutshell gif.  Thanks Matt Brocone for sending this over.

Michigan still churning out the hotties

Jameis destroyed Clemson.

This makes me feel slightly better about just about everything

Week 6 - 2013

"Hope is a waking dream", according to Aristotle.  Well the dream of the first place Browns, the dream of a division championship, and probably the dream of the playoffs turned into a nightmare against the Lions on a warm Sunday afternoon in Cleveland.  Yes, there are still ten games left, and yes, the Browns are only one game behind Cincinnati, and yes, it seems early to despair.  But after watching Brandon Weeden's second chance at being the starting quarterback, I'll be stunned if the Browns win more than three more games the rest of the season.  If that sounds overly pessimistic, watch this play over and over.  One play, one bad decision, but no one play has ever summed up a quarterback quite like this one does.

I don't want to blast just Brandon Weeden.  There is plenty of blame to go around after that disastrous second half which saw the Browns give up 24 straight points.  Craig Robertson was systematically targeted and exploited by Detroit.  An average Lions offensive line kept moon faced Matt Stafford clean and upright for a majority of the game.  The coaching was questionable at best, both offensively and defensively.  And the officiating was downright awful.  But the game was in the hands of the quarterback and he failed.


First off, the Browns have had the lead at halftime in every game this season.  And they've managed to lose 3 of those games.  In the first half, they were able to mix in creative running plays with effective passing.  They didn't put it on Weeden.  And it worked as they went into halftime with a 10 point lead.  It was like an entirely different team came out of the locker room.  In this, and every one of those losses, they have been awful in the third quarter.  I'm not sure if they're being out coached in the locker room at halftime or what the issue is, but the fact is they do not execute well after halftime especially with Weeden at the helm.  They have pulled the plug on the running game in each of the three losses, putting the game entirely on Weeden's shoulders.  And quite simply they are not going to win that way.  Against the Lions, they ran nine plays in the third quarter.  NINE.  Three series, three and out on all of them.  They called three running plays.  They were awful, horrible, lousy.  The coaches have to do a better job.

Defensively, this was probably the worst game the Browns have played this season.  The defense is going to keep them in a lot of games, but they weren't that good on Sunday.  In the second half Detroit exploited matchup problems and Ray Horton had no answer.  They got no pressure on Stafford, allowing him to dink and dunk down the field.  They let the Lions convert 8-15 third downs.  Tashaun Gipson, who is really becoming a solid player, had an interception, the only turnover the Browns forced.  And they only sacked Stafford once.  Craig Robertson had a really really tough day.  Joe Haden was called for two horrible pass interference penalties but shut down a hobbled Calvin Johnson.  But it was the inability to get pressure and to stop the Lions on third down that hurt the Browns on Sunday.  This defense will have better days.

But the problem for the Browns, the real problem, is the quarterback.  I stuck up for Brandon Weeden.  I convinced myself that the things that were wrong with him were fixable, that he would get better with a new coaching staff.  But they aren't and they haven't.  The same issues he had in college, and last year, still exist.  He locks on to his primary target and holds the ball too long.  He has trouble throwing receivers open.  He truly is a baseball player who is playing football.  He has no football instincts.  The second the Lions went up by 4 points early in the fourth quarter the game was essentially over.  He proved it when he stupidly took a penalty for intentional grounding, and proved it with that stupid flip pass that was intercepted.  He even proved it on the last series of the game when he didn't throw the ball near the endzone when the Browns needed touchdowns, although more than likely the game was decided.  He missed a wide open Travis Benjamin and a wide open Greg Little for big plays in the second half, although the Little play would've come back on a penalty.  He limits what the offense can do.  It is clear that when he is the quarterback the Browns will not run screen passes.  It is unclear what other limitations the offense works under with Weeden, but after seeing this team with Hoyer and then again with Weeden, there are definite limitations.

And I don't like to blame the officials but Walt Coleman and his crew were criminally bad.  Rarely are games as horribly officiated as this one, and the Browns were on the short end of every bad call.  The pass interference on Joe Haden on 3rd and 2 in the first quarter was awful.  The catch by Greg Little on 2nd and 25 in the fourth quarter sure looked good from the limited angles that were shown by Fox, but was called a no catch.  And the roughing the passer call on Quinton Groves was an abomination.  I still feel the NFL should grade every officiating crew and publish those grades, but this crew was downright awful.  Walt Coleman has now secured his place with Jeff Triplette in the awful referee hall of fame.  So congrats Walt and crew, you are absolutely dreadful.

So this is where we're at.  The Browns are 3-3 and trending down.  Whereas just last week we were celebrating being in first place, this week it seems we're destined for a top ten draft pick.  Such is life as a Browns fan.  Snapped out of this waking dream, back the reality of life in the NFL with Brandon Weeden as the starting quarterback.  He has ten games left to prove himself, otherwise that hope, that waking dream, will be of Bridgewater or Mariota or Boyd or Manziel in orange and brown.


Random gifs

Careful on those sidelines ladies

 

Holla at your boy Tom Brady

Case McCoy crash test dummy

And bonus picture because it's awesome.

Week 5 - 2013

 

 

Let's start with this.  The Cleveland Browns are in first place in the AFC North.  Process that if you can.  First Place.  Sure, they are only 5 games in.  But they are 3-2 for the first time since 2001.  Think about that.  It's been 12 years since the Browns were 3-2 after 5 games.  They haven't even been over .500 since the clock ticked off on the final game of the 2007 season.  This was a big time win last night, on national television, at home, in front of the best fans in football.  Here's some more food for thought - in the NFL, 50% of teams that start 3-2 make the playoffs.  Yup.  Playoffs. 

It was a big win for many reasons.  First of all, in a town with a psyche as fragile as Cleveland's, following the egg the Indians layed in the Wild Card game, there was a feeling of trepidation (for me anyway) going into the game.  Because just when things appear to be going right for Cleveland, the universe has a way of balancing itself out.  It started on Tuesday with the Indians, and seemed to be continuing from the opening kickoff, when Greg Little caught the kickoff deep in the endzone and jogged out to the eight before he was buried.  Despite the raucous crowd, the Browns seemed intent on finishing the let down the Indians started, on a week where Cleveland was going to be the center of the sports world.  Josh Gordon let a potential 80 yard touchdown slip through his fingers, and the Bills used good field position and a horrible pass interference call to jump out to a 7-0 lead.

Then the unthinkable.  The pin that popped the collective balloon.  Brian Hoyer laying on the field, legs crumpled under him, in obvious pain.  Injured.  Out of the game.  Local boy turned hero turned tragic figure.  In stepped Brandon Weeden, who promptly looked like Brandon Weeden while the boos rained down and the frustration boiled over.  The Bills kicked another field goal and led 10-0. Hope was lost, it appeared.  It felt like another Cleveland sports story.  You could feel it. 

Only this time, something different happened.  Maybe it's having a coach that understands the region.  And understands basic football principles, unlike his predecessor.  Maybe the players are mentally tougher.  Maybe it's just different this season.  But there was a spark, a flash, wearing a brown #80 jersey that turned the game around.  Travis Benjamin, on the strength of two long punt returns, one for a touchdown and one that led to a field goal, almost single handedly tied the game at 10.  The defense clamped down, led by a ferocious front 7.  And somehow, in spite of his shortcomings, (and his long holdings) and the rough start to the game, Brandon Weeden calmed down, made some decent throws, and staked his team out to a halftime lead.

Things appeared to be going right.  The Browns took the lead.  The crowd was wild.  The greatest player to ever wear a Browns jersey was honored at halftime.  Everything was going to be okay it seemed.  Then CJ Spiller blew past Barkevious Mingo for a 54 yard touchdown and the air left the stadium again.  And then the Bills scored again, although the drive cost them their quarterback, as EJ Manuel was cut down by Tashuan Gipson and injured his knee.  24-17.  Bills. 

 

Hope had left, for good this time it seemed.  Surely Brandon Weeden couldn't get the job done.  But then he did.  In the face of adversity he did.  A deep pass, thrown perfectly, (and caught!!) to Greg Little for 47 yards.  Then another, following a penalty, to Josh Gordon for a juggling 37 yard touchdown.  Pandemonium.  Tie ball game.  And then Ray Horton did his thing, and the defense did their thing.  They are fun to watch, this Browns defense.  And Weeden was sharp when he needed to be, making some clutch throws down the stretch.  And Jeff Tuel, Buffalo's backup, was not.  And TJ Ward finished the job with a pick 6 to end the game and start the party.  It would not be the same old story in Cleveland.  Not on this Thursday night anyway.  It was a badly needed win for the Browns, but it was a badly needed win for the area.  They had a chance to fold.  They had every excuse to be like every other Cleveland team that has faced adversity and let us down.  But not this team, not this team.  Not this first place Cleveland Browns team.

 

Random gifs

For some reason I can't stop watching this

This is what Texas football has become

LOL Jimmy Haslam LOL

Week 2 - 2013

The Browns suck.  Again.  It's official.  One touchdown in two games.  Moronic coaching decisions, bad offensive line play, dropped passes, and a lousy quarterback.  And another loss to Baltimore, even though they shut the Ravens out in the first half and allowed only 14 points the entire game.

I'm done defending Brandon Weeden.  He's not any good, he's not a starting NFL quarterback.  He can't process what's happening fast enough, he locks onto his primary target, he takes bad sacks.  I'll never buy the "no quarterback can win with this team" argument.  Tom Brady just won a game on Thursday with receivers (somehow) worse than the Browns have.  How?  He made the one pass that he needed to when he needed to.  Brandon Weeden couldn't accomplish that, missing an absolutely wide open Chris Ogbonnaya on the one play that the Browns were able to successfully execute.  Here's the sideline reaction to that abortion.  Think they believe in this guy?

Greg Little is another one.  I'm done defending him also.  3 dropped passes and then 3 more traffic violations after the game.  If Chud wants to send a message to this collection of scrubs benching Greg Little would be a great place to start.  No separation and lousy hands is no way to play receiver in the NFL, son.

3 delay of game penalties.  That probably falls as much on the coaches as it does on Weeden.  They stunk too.  Another game, another fourth quarter with no touches for Trent Richardson.  In a one possession game.  Pass rush causing problems?  No screens.  No draws.  Nothing to slow them down.  As sad as it sounds I'd kill to see this team lose 35-31.  Just some offense, please.

 

The game as a whole was awful.  Watching other football games make it seems like the Browns are playing an entirely different sport than the rest of the league. 

Our defense is one starting caliber cornerback away from being extremely good.  Mingo looked like a legitimate double digit sack threat.  The front seven has shut down the run in the first two games.  What game are the Browns going to win this season 6-3 that is going to cost this team a chance at the first pick?  Any takers?

I'm stunned I thought this team would be any good.  Because they aren't.  Their problems extend past the quarterback, but that's where it starts.  Question I've been pondering for the past few weeks, and please feel free to weigh in.  Hypothetically, if Philip Rivers is the quarterback of this Browns team, are they a playoff team?  Rivers has had no receivers, a good (but now old) tight end, and a decent running back for the past few seasons.  Poor offensive line.  San Diego's defense has been good but not as good as the Browns have this season.  And he's had the Chargers at 8-8 or 7-9 the past two years.  So, hypothetically, if Rivers was the Browns quarterback do they make the playoffs?  I say yes. 

But again, for the quarterback doesn't matter crowd, if you put Weeden on the Ravens yesterday, is there anyway that they win that game? 

Nothing says Browns football more than this fourth down failure yesterday.

After seeing Brandon Weeden for 2 games this season, there will be a new quarterback in Cleveland next year.  It will more than likely be one of these guys.



Teddy Bridgewater - Louisville




He's athletic and extremely accurate and comes from a pro style offense.  6'3 and lean.  Does the little things like sells play fakes and looks off defenders.  I've seen him play the least of any of the top guys but he's the consensus top qb at this point from most experts.  An RG3 type player.  draftbreakdown.com has 10 games here






Tajh Boyd - Clemson



He's thicker and shorter than Bridgewater, but also extremely accurate.  Plays from the spread.  Has won a lot of games at Clemson and is a guy I really like.  I use Steve Young as his comp, he can be my quarterback for sure.  Ten games from draftbreakdown.com if you're bored here

Marcus Mariota - Oregon

Probably my favorite of the qbs that will be eligible.  He's big at 6'4 fast and accurate.  He's playing in Oregon's offense so people will dismiss him but he's way better than Dennis Dixon or Darren Thomas.  He's going to be most successful in a more wide open fast paced scheme but that's the way the NFL is going.  Kaepernick-like skills.  Highlights here






Johnny Manziel - Texas A&M

Despite all the chatter today about how the Browns were "scouting" him at the Bama game, there were also a ton of other prospects that they were probably looking at.  So don't buy that nonsense, it's far too early for that.  I just don't see him as the Browns qb. Short and fast with huge hands.  He's a great college player and I'm torn about whether he'll be a legit NFL quarterback but I don't see the Browns taking that chance.  This regime's future hinges on whatever quarterback they choose and I can't see them banking on Manziel.  I like him though, probably a turnover machine in the NFL.  Vids here

Brett Hundley - UCLA



I haven't seen him play enough but some people really like him.  I'd rather have any of the guys listed above including Johnny Manziel, but I reserve the right to change my mind.  Highlights







So yeah, this is where we're at.  The Monday after the second game of the season it is already time to figure out which quarterback will be the next one ruined by this sad sack franchise.  AWESOME.  Browns football everybody.



Random gifs

Best gameday sign ever

William Moore with the body slam

OU's band is awesome, especially when they cover the What Does the Fox Say song